Be The Dumbest Person In The Room


In this episode of the the Circle of Knowledge podcast, the team discusses the concept of surrounding yourself with smarter people in order to grow as a person and professional, which was derived from the book, "How To Be A Bawse," by Lilly Singh.

The Circle of Knowledge podcast is brought to you by Amplified Mind helping entrepreneurs, intrapreneurs, and dreamers take their business ideas and goals to the next level. This podcast features best-selling industry resources and the professional panel discussion by the core team at Amplified Minds. Now, here are their discussions. (Jon) Welcome back to the Circle of Knowledge podcast. This is Jon Kovach, Jr. accompanied by Brian Hubbard and Matt Fritzsche. Before we get started with our topics today, I wanted to pass it over to Matt who's got a fun fact, which is a fun way we like to start the show off with. (Matt) Okay, now this is definitely more of just a fun get-to-know-me moment. When I was 11 or 12 years old, there was a girl that I had a crush on and we were at a wedding, kind of together, and we played soccer. It was actually my brother's wedding. We were playing soccer, and I remember kicking the ball trying to impress her. And I remember nailing a ball so hard at her face and knocking her right on her backside on the ground. She got up and she was in tears. I felt so bad because I had the biggest crush on this girl. So there's my story. I nailed the girl that I crushed on with a soccer ball. (Brian) Oh, that's one way to impress a girl. (Jon) We call that Crushing It (Gary Vaynerchuk reference). (Matt) Okay, I got the selection of the book for today. And today's book is called, “How To Be A Bawse (as in Boss). It's, “How To Be A Boss,” by Lilly Singh. She is a YouTube star. She's met a lot of famous people. If you read her book, you'll see a lot of her credentials. She knows a lot of prominent individuals. But the topic of discussion for today comes from chapter 32. It's just simply “to be the dumbest.” And what she talks about is being the dumbest person in the room. She has a quote in here that says, “being the dumbest person on your team doesn't make you a stupid person, it means you're smart enough to select people to work with that you can learn from.” And I think that that's a very interesting topic. Just because if you really want to excel yourself forward, you do need to be surrounded by people who are smarter than you. Especially if the whole saying you, you are the average of your five closest friends, right? Or your income is the average of your five closest friends means you better be the dumbest person in the room, or you're never going to grow. So I think that's the topic of discussion. And maybe we could just share some examples or experiences that we've had that emulate this very topic. What can we say to inspire our audience to go find people who are smarter than they are? (Brian) Yeah, so actually, that's one thing that means a lot to me because while I was growing up, I always had a great group of friends, they meant the world to me. And as I started growing up, I learned that maybe they didn't want to be going the same direction as I wanted to. It doesn't mean that they have to go do business like me but they just didn't have the same type of goals. And it's not that I wanted to just drop them cold turkey. It’s not that I wanted to start with an all-new group of friends. But one of the hardest things that I had to do was try to surround myself with people that had like-minded goals. Now, it wasn’t really as I said, ‘cold turkey cut off from my friends,’ but I made an effort to not spend as much time with them because it's I needed to be the dumbest person in the room. I wanted to surround myself with a lot of people that knew a lot more than me that made a lot more than me and had bigger goals than me. I believed that was going to rub off on me. And it's been bar none one of the best experiences for me. If you know my wife and my parents with what they've done, they’ve done something similar and have found much success. For me, it has been the number one thing that has helped me in this world. By surrounding myself with people that think like I do and even more than I do. (Jon) I love that story. I wanted to add to it with a more historical story. A long time ago, there was a group called the Inklings, which was a mastermind group made up of a group of famous writers. Amongst that group was two individuals whom we all know as CS Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien. Tolkien at the time was not necessarily the smartest person in the room of that mastermind group. He came to this mastermind group and started talking about the success he had with his first book, “The Hobbit.” He came to the group struggling with the second Hobbit book which he was calling it at that moment, “The Hobbit II.” He brought it to the group and he said he didn’t know what to do. This is was his dilemma. Tolkien didn't know how to take this story further. Then from within the group, C.S. Lewis, a much smarter author at the time, mentioned to Tolkien that the only way that his stories were going to be interesting is if something happened more to the hobbits. Lewis said, “What makes a hobbit interesting is when he leaves the Shire.” Tolkien was able to take that advice, go back to the book, and write another couple of books, which led to the completion of the greatest story series of all time. We all now know this series as the “Lord of the Rings.” It’s pretty cool when you surround yourself with incredible people, smarter people, and just people whom you know are just better than you, you end up succeeding in many ways that you did not expect. I don't think J.R. Tolkien ever expected to write the “Lord of the Rings” series and to create a language based off of the ideas that he had, and just look at how it's changed the world today. (Matt) Yeah, I would second that. I feel like if you were to take a good survey of all the very successful people that we all want to be like, we’d probably find that every single one of them would say exactly what we're talking about. They’d all probably say that they became who they are because they surround themselves with people who are smarter. I can think of one particular example is in Elon Musk and his what-he-would-call autobiography where he talks a